24-01-2014  (657 lectures) Categoria: Quixot

Don Quixote of Mancha and His Trusty Squire Pancha


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El llibre de la Manch i la Pancha.. es pot descarregar a google

http://books.google.es/books?id=sMO6eiy2xr0C&printsec=frontcover&
dq=Don+Quixote+of+Mancha++and+his+trusty+squire+Sancho+Pancha&hl=ca&cd=1&redir_esc=y
Manel Capdevila mcapdevila@gmail.com
12/2/12

to josep, Josep
i aquest altre

http://books.google.es/books?id=6qlGGaek1jwC&printsec=frontcover&dq=HISTORIA+DE+ESPA%C3%91A,+Monarqu%C3%ADa+e+Imperio.+Fontana,+Josep.+-+Villares,+Ram%C3%B3n&hl=ca&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=HISTORIA%20DE%20ESPA%C3%91A%2C%20Monarqu%C3%ADa%20e%20Imperio.%20Fontana%2C%20Josep.%20-%20Villares%2C%20Ram%C3%B3n&f=false

En Rocinant √©s un cavall de posta de Dover (Dover post-horse) i ell de la saga del rei Art√ļs..

En Mandado diu que l'original català podria estar ambientat a Anglaterra.. com el Tirant!!


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http://histo.cat/1/Articles_quixot.pdf



http://books.google.es/books/download/The_History_of_the_Most_Renowned_Don_Qui.pdf?id=sMO6eiy2xr0C&hl=ca&capid=AFLRE70pt_jjaezTXra1JPaAG0gkAWwvfjcL3kjwLTvbaGK-8nfrwSM8bBPNimJFYMNinn6GwIMsyFJ4qFS1YdXZVYmmt0SX-Q&continue=http://books.google.es/books/download/The_History_of_the_Most_Renowned_Don_Qui.pdf%3Fid%3DsMO6eiy2xr0C%26hl%3Dca%26output%3Dpdf

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http://books.google.es/books?id=oCLUSSPaEhUC&pg=PT54&dq=de+quien+es+este+tonel&hl=ca&cd=3&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=gato&f=false

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Original

Quien es ese tonel?  => Quin es aquest tomell?

English

What bundle of paper is that?


On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Manel Capdevila <mcapdevila@gmail.com> wrote:
El llibre de la Manch i la Pancha.. es pot descarregar a google

http://books.google.es/books?id=sMO6eiy2xr0C&printsec=frontcover&dq=Don+Quixote+of+Mancha++and+his+trusty+squire+Sancho+Pancha&hl=ca&cd=1&redir_esc=y
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Josep S.
He buscat 2 traduccions del tonel, de moment no apareix el "Bundle of Paper" ...
12/5/12

He buscat 2 traduccions del tonel, de moment no apareix el "Bundle of Paper" per enlloc, figura "overgrown piece of lumber".
S'hauria de cerca més.

What over-grown Piece of Lumber have we here? cry'd the curate.

1) The history of the renowned don Quixote de la Mancha. Tr. by several hands: and publ. by P. Motteux, 1719.


What overgrown piece of lumber have we here? cry'd the curate. (aquí hi ha una nota d'incomprensió de l'original)

2) The history of the renowned Don Quixote de la Manha, Printed for W. Innys, 1749.

Manel Capdevila mcapdevila@gmail.com
12/5/12

to me

√Čs evident que hi ha dues fam√≠lies tradu√Įdes d'originals diferents..

(W. Innys, 1749. - P. Motteux, 1771.- Pierre Antoine Motteux - 1719)

What "over-grown piece of lumber" = Quina "peça grossa de fusta" = quien es ese "tonel" (de fusta..)

Diuen que aquesta és la pitjor traducció (J. Philips, 1687.) = S.Pancha?

"Bundle of Paper"  = "Relligat de papers"= "Tomell" (de papers..)
"Y'are the cat , the rat =sou el gat, la rata..

 

 

 

√Čs evident que hi ha dues fam√≠lies tradu√Įdes d'originals diferents..

(W. Innys, 1749. - P. Motteux, 1771.- Pierre Antoine Motteux - 1719)

What "over-grown piece of lumber" = Quina "peça grossa de fusta" = quien es ese "tonel" (de fusta..)

(T.Smollett, 1795.-pag.24-25 )

Who may that tun-like author be? ="Qui és aquest autor com un barril"= quien es ese "tonel"

(J. Philips, 1687.) = S.Pancha?

Diuen que aquesta és la pitjor traducció

"Bundle of Paper"  = "Relligat de papers"= "Tomell" (de papers..)
"Y'are the cat , the rat =sou el gat, la rata..

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Manel Capdevila <mcapdevila@gmail.com> wrote:

√Čs evident que hi ha dues fam√≠lies tradu√Įdes d'originals diferents..

(W. Innys, 1749. - P. Motteux, 1771.- Pierre Antoine Motteux - 1719)

What "over-grown piece of lumber" = Quina "peça grossa de fusta" = quien es ese "tonel" (de fusta..)

Diuen que aquesta és la pitjor traducció (J. Philips, 1687.) = S.Pancha?

"Bundle of Paper"  = "Relligat de papers"= "Tomell" (de papers..)
"Y'are the cat , the rat =sou el gat, la rata..

 

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En josep ha trobat edicions a la venda del Quixot, a preus astronòmics:

http://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/don-quixote/author/cervantes/sortby/1/page-1/

La mes curiosa es la n¬ļ 2, de 1610 en espanyol, que es 1a edicio fora d'Espanya, a Mil√†. Cont√© canvis i correccions importants, pero s'atrubueix a Cervantes. Sembla que el F. Rico ja l'ha estudiat. Seria interessant veure quins son els canvis. A VEURE SI ES POT TROBAR EN PDF. Val uns $50,000.


http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=8845014780&searchurl=an%3Dcervantes%26bsi%3D0%26ds%3D30%26sortby%3D1%26tn%3Ddon%2Bquixote

L'edici√≥ canviada en angl√®s de 1687 que vam comentar a Arenys i vas trovar en pdf de l'editor Newton apareix en el n¬ļs 14, 15 i 20, a preus mes baixos de uns $7,500.

 

The History of the Renowned Don Quixote de la Mancha,2 - Pàgina 264

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The judge, in concert with Ddctn Ferdinand, Cardenio, ; _ and the curate, resolv'd that Don Ferdinand shouldinm _- ... out a parehment, And opening his-warrant, he made a shift to read ib 3_ , si xotes l g his project Oisel' ssy solv'd once all?




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