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Don Quixote of Mancha and His Trusty Squire Pancha
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El llibre de la Manch i la Pancha.. es pot descarregar a google
http://books.google.es/books?id=sMO6eiy2xr0C&printsec=frontcover&
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El llibre de la Manch i la Pancha.. es pot descarregar a google
http://books.google.es/books?id=sMO6eiy2xr0C&printsec=frontcover&dq=Don+Quixote+of+Mancha++and+his+trusty+squire+Sancho+Pancha&hl=ca&cd=1&redir_esc=y
i aquest altrehttp://books.google.es/books?id=sMO6eiy2xr0C&printsec=frontcover&dq=Don+Quixote+of+Mancha++and+his+trusty+squire+Sancho+Pancha&hl=ca&cd=1&redir_esc=y
http://books.google.es/books?id=6qlGGaek1jwC&printsec=frontcover&dq=HISTORIA+DE+ESPA%C3%91A,+Monarqu%C3%ADa+e+Imperio.+Fontana,+Josep.+-+Villares,+Ram%C3%B3n&hl=ca&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=HISTORIA%20DE%20ESPA%C3%91A%2C%20Monarqu%C3%ADa%20e%20Imperio.%20Fontana%2C%20Josep.%20-%20Villares%2C%20Ram%C3%B3n&f=false
En Rocinant és un cavall de posta de Dover (Dover post-horse) i ell de la saga del rei Artús..
En Mandado diu que l'original català podria estar ambientat a Anglaterra.. com el Tirant!!
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Date: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:15 PM
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http://histo.cat/1/Articles_quixot.pdf
http://books.google.es/books/download/The_History_of_the_Most_Renowned_Don_Qui.pdf?id=sMO6eiy2xr0C&hl=ca&capid=AFLRE70pt_jjaezTXra1JPaAG0gkAWwvfjcL3kjwLTvbaGK-8nfrwSM8bBPNimJFYMNinn6GwIMsyFJ4qFS1YdXZVYmmt0SX-Q&continue=http://books.google.es/books/download/The_History_of_the_Most_Renowned_Don_Qui.pdf%3Fid%3DsMO6eiy2xr0C%26hl%3Dca%26output%3Dpdf
http://histo.cat/1/Articles_quixot.pdf
http://books.google.es/books/download/The_History_of_the_Most_Renowned_Don_Qui.pdf?id=sMO6eiy2xr0C&hl=ca&capid=AFLRE70pt_jjaezTXra1JPaAG0gkAWwvfjcL3kjwLTvbaGK-8nfrwSM8bBPNimJFYMNinn6GwIMsyFJ4qFS1YdXZVYmmt0SX-Q&continue=http://books.google.es/books/download/The_History_of_the_Most_Renowned_Don_Qui.pdf%3Fid%3DsMO6eiy2xr0C%26hl%3Dca%26output%3Dpdf
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http://books.google.es/books?id=oCLUSSPaEhUC&pg=PT54&dq=de+quien+es+este+tonel&hl=ca&cd=3&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=gato&f=false
http://books.google.es/books?id=oCLUSSPaEhUC&pg=PT54&dq=de+quien+es+este+tonel&hl=ca&cd=3&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=gato&f=false
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Original
Quien es ese tonel? => Quin es aquest tomell?
English
What bundle of paper is that?
From: Manel Capdevila <mcapdevila@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Subject: Fwd: The History of the Most Renowned Don Quixote of Mancha and His Trusty Squire Pancha
To: Jordi Forch <jordi.forch@gmail.com>
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Quien es ese tonel? => Quin es aquest tomell?
English
What bundle of paper is that?
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Manel Capdevila <mcapdevila@gmail.com> wrote:
El llibre de la Manch i la Pancha.. es pot descarregar a google
http://books.google.es/books?id=sMO6eiy2xr0C&printsec=frontcover&dq=Don+Quixote+of+Mancha++and+his+trusty+squire+Sancho+Pancha&hl=ca&cd=1&redir_esc=y
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He buscat 2 traduccions del tonel, de moment no apareix el "Bundle of Paper" per enlloc, figura "overgrown piece of lumber".
S'hauria de cerca més.
What over-grown Piece of Lumber have we here? cry'd the curate.
What overgrown piece of lumber have we here? cry'd the curate. (aquà hi ha una nota d'incomprensió de l'original)
S'hauria de cerca més.
What over-grown Piece of Lumber have we here? cry'd the curate.
1) The history of the renowned don Quixote de la Mancha. Tr. by several hands: and publ. by P. Motteux, 1719.
What overgrown piece of lumber have we here? cry'd the curate. (aquà hi ha una nota d'incomprensió de l'original)
2) The history of the renowned Don Quixote de la Manha, Printed for W. Innys, 1749.
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És evident que hi ha dues famÃlies traduïdes d'originals diferents..
(W. Innys, 1749. - P. Motteux, 1771.- Pierre Antoine Motteux - 1719)
What "over-grown piece of lumber" = Quina "peça grossa de fusta" = quien es ese "tonel" (de fusta..)
Diuen que aquesta és la pitjor traducció (J. Philips, 1687.) = S.Pancha?
"Bundle of Paper"Â = "Relligat de papers"= "Tomell" (de papers..)"Y'are the cat , the rat =sou el gat, la rata..
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És evident que hi ha dues famÃlies traduïdes d'originals diferents..
(W. Innys, 1749. - P. Motteux, 1771.- Pierre Antoine Motteux - 1719)
What "over-grown piece of lumber" = Quina "peça grossa de fusta" = quien es ese "tonel" (de fusta..)
(T.Smollett, 1795.-pag.24-25 )
Who may that tun-like author be? ="Qui és aquest autor com un barril"= quien es ese "tonel"
(J. Philips, 1687.) = S.Pancha?
Diuen que aquesta és la pitjor traducció
"Bundle of Paper"Â = "Relligat de papers"= "Tomell" (de papers..)
"Y'are the cat , the rat =sou el gat, la rata..
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Manel Capdevila <mcapdevila@gmail.com> wrote:
És evident que hi ha dues famÃlies traduïdes d'originals diferents..
(W. Innys, 1749. - P. Motteux, 1771.- Pierre Antoine Motteux - 1719)
What "over-grown piece of lumber" = Quina "peça grossa de fusta" = quien es ese "tonel" (de fusta..)
Diuen que aquesta és la pitjor traducció (J. Philips, 1687.) = S.Pancha?
"Bundle of Paper"Â = "Relligat de papers"= "Tomell" (de papers..)
"Y'are the cat , the rat =sou el gat, la rata..
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En josep ha trobat edicions a la venda del Quixot, a preus astronòmics:
http://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/don-quixote/author/cervantes/sortby/1/page-1/
La mes curiosa es la nº 2, de 1610 en espanyol, que es 1a edicio fora d'Espanya, a Milà . Conté canvis i correccions importants, pero s'atrubueix a Cervantes. Sembla que el F. Rico ja l'ha estudiat. Seria interessant veure quins son els canvis. A VEURE SI ES POT TROBAR EN PDF. Val uns $50,000.
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=8845014780&searchurl=an%3Dcervantes%26bsi%3D0%26ds%3D30%26sortby%3D1%26tn%3Ddon%2Bquixote
L'edició canviada en anglès de 1687 que vam comentar a Arenys i vas trovar en pdf de l'editor Newton apareix en el nºs 14, 15 i 20, a preus mes baixos de uns $7,500.
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The History of the Renowned Don Quixote de la Mancha,2 - PÃ gina 264
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